Question

[Relo'Quath]

Why didn't you draw those things out of demonology? Popular culture is often wrong when it comes to demons anyway.

I could always switch to the Channeling of Void magic. Summon a voidwalker, that'd be terrible. I don't even want to think about what would happen to your mana pools once that happens.

[Chephros]

Yes, that's obvious. Such as you believing the Abyss is the uppermost layer of hell, but I won't go into that anyway. Neither will I go into the Seven necromantic bells, nor the nine layers of hell.

Theres just too much crap to filter through in those.

And yes, you could summon a voidwalker, but technically, I don't use traditional mage 'mana', and it wouldn't be able to correctly manipulate mine.

Plus you can't switch magics without being taught by someone else who knows it i'm fairly certain.

[Tristan Knightrhode]

...shouldnt you not be able to summon a void walker?

i mean if you tried wouldnt it just eat your magic from the void or where ever it happens to be at the time and just keep moving along?

[Relo'Quath]

Oh so you are educated! Did I say it was my belief that the abyss is the uppermost layer of hell? I didn't, I said it is.

Now pay attention, you're about to get a lesson in Demonology, some english, and if you pick up on it, geography.

Abyss:
–noun
1. a deep, immeasurable space, gulf, or cavity; vast chasm.
2. anything profound, unfathomable, or infinite: the abyss of time.
3. (in ancient cosmogony)
-a. the primal chaos before Creation.
-b. the infernal regions; hell.
-c. a subterranean ocean.

I even highlighted the important parts. First, let's just deal with the fact that Hell must be an immeasurable space because of the wealth of souls it recieves on a daily basis. As souls are immortal in all forms of the word, they cannot be destroyed. So you have to put them somewhere. And we must assume that we take some sort of ethereal form as we die to move on to the next world, as you must leave behind all the physical of one plane to join another fully.

Secondly, Hell itself is profound, unfathomable, and as logically proven above, if there is a Hell, infinite.

The third high lighted portion attributes to my association.

The fourth highlighted portion describes a desert. Traditionally in the language that birthed the word "Subterranean", it meant below earth, or not worthy of earth. Therefore I can attribute the word Subterranean to Sand. So Subterranean Ocean would make ocean of sand, thus a desert.

Subterranean may also attribute to Hell's standing in the order of the planes as stated in the Qaballa Heavens, Earth, Hells.

Since nothing in any credible texts, aside from the ravings of Dante, states that there is any kind of endless hole of some sort, logically a desert must be on top of a world, for there to be anything under it. As we all know the Abyss stated in Dante's inferno is not under lucifer's cankerous ass.

In the following image, you'll note that there is no stated abyss. Just this little spot where satan's feet dangle, but that's getting pretty close to Mount Purgatory in the book isn't it? link

And since modern science has already proven that there isn't anything below the surface of the earth other than rock and more molten rock. And it states that there is a surface to hell, because you have to go through the Hell Gate, it would make sense if this incomprehensible surface size were a desert, as only Christ survived forty days and nights in a desert, resisting the devil. It'd be quite logical if the Hell Gate itself was surrounded by a incomprehensible desert, so that none may attempt a rescue or an escape.

[Chephros]

That's all fine and grand, but those who do not believe in heaven or hell, the atheists, fade out. They aren't taken to their final point.

Anyway, your lesson is joyous and dandy, but you really need to pay more attention. We kinda moved on from that. You need to explain your little voidwalker, and give a reference to it, if you can.

[Tristan Knightrhode]

chephros said:

That's all fine and grand, but those who do not believe in heaven or hell, the atheists, fade out. They aren't taken to their final point.

WHOO!!! I FADE OUT!!!

>.>...Bitches. >_<!!

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[Relo'Quath]

joegt123 said:

...shouldnt you not be able to summon a void walker?

i mean if you tried wouldnt it just eat your magic from the void or where ever it happens to be at the time and just keep moving along?

Which is why I said it'd be terrible. You'd have to be on equal footing with a voidwalker, and you really never know what's going to walk through the rift. All you really have to do is tear a hole in the void, and keep it open until something comes out, it's very unpredictable. What stops the voidwalker from eating YOUR mana is the fact that there are others around that did not summon it. They'll drain their mana, then yours.

In that case, you'd have to know how to kill a voidwalker, which is quite difficult, as they're half in half out.

(Whether a voidwalker comes out or not is decided by a luck roll. This should shed light on where the original voidwalkers come from.)

[Chephros]

And at the point when they eat your mana their summon ends, which sends them back.

'Course, if you're like me, somehow getting your mana eaten is lethal, so that wouldn't be all too great an experience.

Of course though, seeing a voidwalker eat Chaos....that would be fun. Like giving it heartburn.

[Relo'Quath]

chephros said:

And at the point when they eat your mana their summon ends, which sends them back.

Doesn't work that way. You're just holding the rift open for them. There is no demanding a voidwalker involved like you would demand an imp or something. You open a portal, and hope something comes out. Once you run out of mana, the portal shuts. And if the voidwalker isn't dead, it gets to stay until it dies.

[Tristan Knightrhode]

thats what i got out of it. your just opening the rift...not summoning the bastard >.>

the only way you could beat it then is to physically force it back through the rift before it closes on you. (aside from killing it <.<)

[Chephros]

Or giving it bad enough heartburn and make it leave.

Yes, I know it wouldn't actually work, but considering voidwalkers can't really eat their own initial essence, it would be interesting.

[Relo'Quath]

Unless it switches to ethereal form, then you can't lay a physical finger on it Tristan

[Tristan Knightrhode]

reloquath said:

Unless it switches to ethereal form, then you can't lay a physical finger on it Tristan

true...hmm...if you had enough mana you could use a spirit attack to force it back through the rift, even the void walkers will have an absorbtion limit in the sense that it can only absorb so much so fast.

[Relo'Quath]

Do that if you want more voidwalkers coming. Loose mana means lunch time.

[Chephros]

It's like a big, floating....still-mute barrier. Except it would likely blow up if it absorbed too much at a time, instead of just fading away.

If only it could talk, then it would be oh so much more fun than a barrier.

Until it turned on you.

Then you would....I dunno, get fucked over. Mages wouldn't die as it's only their mana being depleted.